From: Bruce Heyman [bruceheyman@danapointboaters.ccsend.com] on behalf of Bruce Heyman [bruceheyman@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:07 PM
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Subject: Dana Point Boaters Association - July 20 - PI Tax Package
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July 20, 2007  PI Tax Package

Possessory Interest Tax - Action Required for 2007/2008 Tax Year

 

(We apologize in advance for this being a long Boaters Blast, we know you are all very busy and we do try to keep our messages short.  Unfortunately Possessory Interest Tax is a complex issue)

 

Background:

Just to recap, the County has covered Boater's past Possessory Interest Tax (PI tax) "Escape" tax year bills.   You should NOT have received tax bill(s) for these years (you should have received notices of enrollment from the County of Orange Assessors office, however these are not bills).

 

You should have recently received a PI tax bill from Chriss W. Street, Orange County Treasurer - Tax Collector, for 2007 (tax year is from 7/1/2007 to 6/30/08).  This bill is not for an "Escape" tax year and the County fully expects you to pay this bill and stated so in the letter that you should have received from George Caravalho, former Harbor Department Director.

 

Data Collection:

Of the bills that we have seen so far, we can see that the bills vary considerably, even for boaters in the same size slip.  The Assessors office thought that the bills would be in the $70-$250 range; however we've seen many bills well above these numbers.  We've developed a tool to allow you to enter your PI tax information.  The information is collected confidentially and, in accordance with our standard Privacy Policy, it will not be shared. 

 

To help us help you, please take the time (5 minutes or less) to enter your tax bill details here: Possessory Tax Data Collection.  In future communications we will share with you the summarized results from this data collection so you'll know better where you stand.

 

Appeals:

For a number of reasons, we are recommending that this assessment should be appealed.  The purpose of this Boaters Blast is to give you the tools and information that you need to mount the most effective appeal possible.  To that end, we have secured the services of DePasquale, Kelly and Company to represent Boaters in this matter.  The Association cannot legally bind members, or nonmembers. Instead, each individual who wishes to appeal their PI tax must independently retain DePasquale, Kelly and Company, a California Corporation Property Tax Consultants. Read more about DePasquale, Kelley & Company here.

 

The dollar value of this particular tax falls well below the amount that would normally be allowed for professional representation.  So the deal that your Association has negotiated with DePasquale, Kelly & Company assumes that the Association will be successful in reaching out to thousands of boaters.  Since the County has continued to refuse to include our information in their mailings, or to otherwise provide the information, we need to reach out to all boaters affected by this latest action through our own resources.  Therefore, we must continue to rely on you and your word-of-mouth to get the word out to our fellow boaters.  Please let them know that the Association (www.DanaPointBoaters.org) exists and that resources are available to deal with the Possessory Interest Tax.

 

The fee charged by DePasquale, Kelly & Company for representation on this matter is a sliding-scale contingency rate structure, based on the number of Boaters they represent.  At this time, a finalized rate is unavailable as we continue to compile applicants in an effort to ascertain the contingency participation level.  That said, the starting rate is not to exceed 100% of tax savings and/or refunds for 2007, and will decline based upon the actual participation level. Please also be assured that the actual fee will have a price break for members of the Dana Point Boaters Association and could be as low as 40% if enough boaters are brought into the combined action.  It is understood that there is no cost to the individual boater/slip renter unless DePasquale, Kelley & Company is successful at recovering property tax savings and/or refund.

 

How do you retain DePasquale, Kelley and Company?

First, please sign the fee letter Fee Letter.

 

Second, please sign the appropriate appointment of agency.  If you already filed your own appeal and want DePasquale, Kelley and Company to represent you please fill out and sign  this form: COB 306, Substitution of Agent. If you did not file your own appeal, you must sign COB 305, Filed with Initial Application.

 

Third, the above two forms along with the front page of your PI tax bill must be returned together in order for Depasquale, Kelley and Company to proceed on your behalf.  You may fax or email the information initially, but the originals must be mailed to us for future reference.

DePasquale, Kelley and Company

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TELEPHONE (714) 662-3656

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At this point you probably have a few questions:

Why is this good deal?  If  the appeals are successful, this could be the last year that you will receive a Possessory Tax bill from the County for your slip.  While officially the appeal process is a request to "adjust" the assessed value, in this case we will be arguing that our Possessory Interest in this property is zero.  Paying up to one year of Possessory Interest Tax to DePasquale, Kelly and Company to make all the future years go away is a good deal.  Also please be aware that DePasquale, Kelly and Company was one of the key experts we worked with (at no cost to the Association) to make the "Escape" tax years go away.  At total savings for boaters of $850,000!

Can I file the appeal on my own?  Yes.  The forms and the instructions can be found on the Counties web site (www.ocgov.com/assessor).  However, we believe the value of having professionals like DePasquale, Kelly and Company handle the process, argue the finer points of the laws, guidelines, precedence and valuation is compelling.  Normally, home owners and boaters would have no other financially viable option but to handle the appeal on their own.  Having professionals handle the process on your behalf assures the best outcome, saves your time (perhaps a lot of time), and is relatively inexpensive.

Why should I pay the tax at all?  Not paying the tax is certainly an option, but not one that we would recommend.  In addition to the obvious high penalties for paying late, we have been advised that the failure to pay the tax precludes you from being allowed to use the Appeal Process.  Also, appeals to the Superior Court require that you've first exhausted the Counties' Appeal process.  Hence our recommendation is that you file the appeal and pay the tax.  The appeal process is then used to request a refund of the amounts paid.

Are there other actions we should be pursuing?  Maybe.  Because there is a September 15, 2007 deadline for us to file our Possessory Interest Tax Appeals we have made these appeals the top priority.  We will apprise you of other potential actions that should/could be taken.

My tax bill is different from some of my fellow boaters even though we have the same size slip, how can this be?  The Assessors office takes two major factors into account to determine your assessed value. 

The first factor is the amount that you are paying, annually, for your slip.  If you (or your neighbors) are one of the 400 boaters that have been "right sized" into your slip by the Marina Companies and the County, then you will be paying more for your slip than your neighbors. 

The second factor, since the County will not give us Boaters leases with any meaningful duration (we are month-to-month), the Assessor's office is allowed by law to form their own opinion on how long you will keep your boat in the harbor and/or how long the County will allow you to use their slip.  This assumed length of time has a significant impact on the Assessed Value. 

To help us and our experts prosecute the appeals, we have created a tool that will allow you to confidentially enter in your specific Possessory Interest Tax details.  Please take the time to enter your details here: Possessory Tax Data Collection.

 

Recommended Boater Actions at a Glance:

1)      Pay the PI tax bill

2)      Sign up with DePasquale, Kelly and Company

3)      File an appeal

4)      Enter your data in the Associations data collection tool.

 

Summary

In closing, while we have acknowledged that the financial burden of this particular tax may not be overwhelming, it is unfair and it upsets most of us that this is the way our County, our land lord, wants to treat us.  While we have had to pay the maximum slip fee increases allowed by the County Board of Supervisors, the additional expense of this tax, when it used to be included with our slip fees, represents a back door method to further increase the slip fees. 

Clearly, if this technique goes unchallenged, we should not be surprised if we see the same technique used to pass on other costs that are currently covered by our slip fees.

 

*****Any tax advice included in this written or electronic communication was not intended or written to be used, is not intended to constitute tax advice, and you should consult your own tax advisor for such advice.  This is intended to provided information only, and it cannot be used by the taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer by any governmental taxing authority or agency***** 

 

 

About Dana Point Boaters Association

The DPBA is an advocacy group for Dana Point recreational boaters. The organization is open to all families interested in the many different kinds of recreational boating in the harbor from kayaks to large motor cruisers. The organization's goals are to meet or exceed recreational boaters' needs through constructively working with merchants, officials in Dana Pont City Government, various departments within Orange County Government, the ship yard, Yacht Clubs, other associations, California Coastal Commission, California Coastal Coalition, South Coast Water Distinct, California State Legislature, RBOC, SCMA, local clubs and selected experts. The organization is currently working on issues surrounding the Counties planned "Revitalization", the Possessory Interest Tax and the lost fuel tax that is being transferred to Parks Harbors and beaches.

Questions should be directed to Bruce Heyman, 949-289-8400, bruceheyman@cox.net
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